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07 April 2010 @ 12:21 pm
5.16 Dark Side of the Moon: How Are We In Heaven?  

5.16 Dark Side of the Moon:  How Are We In Heaven?


Winchester Heaven:

Memories of times gone by

Teach lessons, kill faith.


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Current Mood: contemplativecontemplative
Current Music: "Knockin' On Heaven's Door" by Bob Dylan
animotusanimotus on April 11th, 2010 10:14 am (UTC)
As usual your reviews are GREAT!Thank you for sharing!
krisreinkekrisreinke on April 11th, 2010 07:15 pm (UTC)
Your review is brilliant
Your review is brilliant - and I'm impressed by the details you spotted that I missed. *wow*

OTOH? I"d bet I know *exactly* where this is going.

Three days on the cross.

Then Dean dies.

(Given that there will be a season six I am *fingers crossed* anticipating ressurection. But still. )
rosefickeroseficke on April 11th, 2010 08:18 pm (UTC)
Great commentary, as always. I think you're onto something with the idea of it being God that orchestrated the memory trips as opposed to Zachariah.
I've watched this show 4 times now and it's become one of my top 5 favourites of the series. I'm anticipating the final episodes of this season with a sense of dread and excitement. And hope to stay as spoiler free as possible.
Thanks for all your input. You are a true gem in this fandom and I'm glad I found your blog.
jensenrickjensenrick on April 12th, 2010 02:57 am (UTC)
Brilliant meta. I had definitely seen Sam gaining insight into Dean, but I hadn't realized that it might have been purposeful, because all the negative focus seemed to be on how hurt Dean was. You have opened my eyes, and I hope this is true- that the selective memories were there to give Sam what he needed to help Dean.
zofia27: Blinkzofia27 on April 14th, 2010 03:12 am (UTC)
Yes, yes, yes, and yes!!

I think you've completely nailed it and put down in words what I was thinking much better than I ever could!

Sam is definitely taking the lead now and he finally got the insight into Dean that he needed.

jo_anne8jo_anne8 on April 20th, 2010 04:19 pm (UTC)
Hi Mary! *waves*

Tis me, JoAnne! I got the pleasure of seeing you again at the LA con this past March!

I just read your wonderful(as always) review of The Dark Side of the Moon. I loved this eppy in so many ways and the revelation to poor Dean that Sam's "greatest hits" did not include him. At least the ones we saw. :( But I am sure, Sammy had also many good memories with Dean like you have said.
I do think there was an orchestrated agenda here. I think these "greatest hits" were selected by TPTB to steer the boys in a certain direction. Maybe show Sam that he can be strong and take charge, but also to weaken Dean so that he will turn himself over to Michael. Obviously, Zach had a big part to play in this particular "heaven" so I am wondering if Joshua really wasn't THE Joshua. With all that Dean saw in this heaven, what was left of his self worth was ripped by these "visions." Isn't that what they wanted to get to Dean? He wasn't going to volunteer for the job.

Excellent review, Mary!! I loved the 100th eppy as well and look forward to reading your review on THAT ONE! :D

Take care and it was good seeing you again!

JoAnne :D
cassopeia: LOVE ITcassopeia on April 20th, 2010 04:28 pm (UTC)
Brilliant review! It made me all teared up again. I completely agree with you that this was to date Dabb and Loflin's best script. It gives me hope for season 6.
heidi: candid deanhighd on October 4th, 2013 03:05 pm (UTC)
I am new to the show, and just found your LJ a few days ago. I was really impressed with this meta, because I came to the same conclusion you did, but I do have a question for you that I can't seem to figure out if it's my own wishes or how it went down on the show.

I never saw Sam's memory of the fight night, as him remembering the fight. For him to remember the fight would mean that John and Dean would have to be in the memory. For me the memory was of the moment he was outside feeling the aftermath of the fight. Those sweet moments in young Sam's life when he was finally "free" from his family. I think that is why this memory above them all hurt Dean the most.

Also I don't think that Zach was controlling this heaven at all. At least not until the common thread of the road, was broken. I think once they were off the road and now trackable by Ash's equations it was then Zach could find them and pervert Dean's view of heaven, and to me that is why Joshua/God interrupted the scene. I think that God is willing to allow things to happen on the show, but I don't think that God was willing to allow Dean's view of heaven to be sullied not after all the lessons he just shown them.

I have to thank you so much for all this meta you have written. The only other fandom I have followed is the Queer as Folk fandom and it's very rich in meta, when I discovered SPN I was pretty surprised given the wealth of riches the show has to offer, that the meta was so limited. I have been pouring over your LJ for days and just wanted to thank you and get your ideas, I hope you don't mind a ton of posts from a new fan :)
bardicvoicebardicvoice on October 17th, 2013 11:21 pm (UTC)
Welcome, and thanks!
Hello, Heidi, and welcome! Sorry it took so long for me to respond to you; things get crazy. *wry grin*

I like your thoughts on Sam's memory. And I agree that Zachariah was unlikely to be influencing the experience until after he found them on the road. I've always enjoyed speculating!

You might want to check out the community http://spn-heavymeta.livejournal.com/ for a wealth of meta on the show by people with vastly different viewpoints. You might find more things there to enjoy.

Please feel free to wander through my stuff. I do read comments and respond eventually, really!

And I'm happy you're enjoying what you find here, and took the time to tell me so!