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21 February 2010 @ 10:31 pm
About Supernatural Season Six ...  
About Supernatural Season Six ...
What follows is my purely speculative take on possibilities for season six of Supernatural. I have absolutely no inside track on the show; all I’m going to do here is weave the gossamer threads of my imagination with ideas spooled out of interviews with Eric Kripke during the last half-year to produce a nebulous tapestry of what might be in the end of season five and the new course of season six. I’m also going to look back for perspective to things we’ve heard from Kripke throughout the entire run of the show. If you want to avoid any potential for possible spoilerage based on interviews Kripke has already given combined with my guesses and questions, do not click on the cut-link to read the rest of this post. Otherwise, click and come on in! 
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Ciaranandreth47 on February 22nd, 2010 06:10 pm (UTC)
Oh, well said! I don't think there's a single bit of this that I disagree with. Especially this:

I think we’ve actually seen variations on Kripke’s prophesied final shot twice already, on the two occasions when Kripke most feared he’d never get the chance to tell all the stories he wanted the Winchesters to share with us. And I’m betting we’ll see it twice more: once at the end of season five, and then at the end of the series, whether it happens as I expect at the end of season six, or later. And I’ll love it as much then as I do now, if it’s what I think it is: Sam and Dean tossing weapons into the Impala’s trunk, acknowledging to each other that they still have more work to do.

bardicvoice: Kripke & Ibardicvoice on February 24th, 2010 04:11 am (UTC)
Thank you! I'd love the chance to talk to Kripke about that ... *grin*
fannishliss: Man-Eating Cow!fannishliss on February 22nd, 2010 06:35 pm (UTC)
I am in for the long haul, whatever happens. :)
bardicvoice: Kripke & Ibardicvoice on February 24th, 2010 04:11 am (UTC)
You and me both! I can't imagine Sam and Dean not being welcome in my home every week ...
Melcoltshot_1 on February 23rd, 2010 12:37 am (UTC)
Very nicely put. I've been quoting those Kripke interviews at people for a season and a half. (Damn that dumb EW article) There's one by Sera where she talks about the show running easily for 150 episodes (the next syndication milestone)too. At this point I would not write off an extension into season seven or eight. With only the two leads, the price tag on SN is not nearly as high as some older shows with larger casts. And, at this point, I don't know what opportunities there are out there that are really better than nice steady TV work. Certainly that's the latest vibe I'm getting from J & J.

I agree with you particularily about the end of the show being the Impala trunk -- 'We've got work to do' shot.
All along, EK has done a fabulous job of developing his story and adapting it as he goes along. He only really surprised me twice - first when Sam died -- actually died (leading me to ask aloud - Holy crap! Is Jared renegotiating his contract?)And second when Dean actually went to hell. I would have sworn up and down that that was NOT where the story was going. And then I read in the Supernatural magazine - Eric said that he did not originally plan for Dean to go to hell. (and I said, again aloud -- I talk to myself a lot -- AHA!! I knew it!!)The original plan - Ruby gets Sam to use his powers to save Dean, while going darkside enough for the redemption arc. Its pretty cool how the angels were incorporated into the story and how with just a bit of a twist it ended up in the same place more or less. Probably a point for a different discussion, but I think that the arc as it played out made for better drama, albeit at the expense of a less sympathetic Sam. In the cause of saving Dean who wouldn't be pulling for him to do whatever it took? But not so much for the whole stop Lilith theme. But in my mind, Sam is now much more in need of a bit of redemption and is a much more interesting character.
OK enough rambling -- I hope the end of S5 plays out as you spin and we'll see about S6 and beyond. ;)
bardicvoice: Kripke & Ibardicvoice on February 24th, 2010 04:19 am (UTC)
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed this!

I deliberately didn't quote the stuff in the Supernatural magazine for two reasons: first, that most people don't have it to be able to read (and I respect copyright enough that I wouldn't link to a bootleg scan); and second, that those interviews are present day looking back, and I wanted to show how the contemporaneous interviews reflected the way things were changing. I did love reading that interview in particular, though, because I could practically see where the realizations came in, and I agree with you that the story was made a stronger one by actually consigning Dean to Hell.

I don't understand people who feel betrayed by learning that Kripke didn't have all the details firmly in his brain from day one. I've never had a story emerge exactly as I thought when I began it, and I've never spent five years telling it, much less with the input of other very creative and clever brains to make it better.

I love Supernatural ...
I'm for wine and the embrace of questionable womenmissyjack on February 23rd, 2010 11:35 am (UTC)
Lovely work! I have been so frustrated over this last year with fans fixation on the "5 year arc" as if it were craved in stone from day one! Given how we know key elements of the mythology have shifted as the story has evolved.

I think the exciting thing about S6 is that S5 could end in all the ways you describe - or something else (I have no ideas expcet as you say Team Free Will will win!) And then - what comes next? For the first time since the end of S1, I truly have no idea what will happen!
bardicvoice: Kripke & Ibardicvoice on February 24th, 2010 04:20 am (UTC)
Thank you! We're much of a mind on this. And isn't it exciting to have no firm idea of where we're going beyond the end of the season? I'm really going to be looking forward to seeing the road ahead in the Impala's headlights ...
morgansladymorganslady on February 23rd, 2010 05:27 pm (UTC)
Thanks for all the background articles.. I never realized that Kripke didn't mention the '5 yr plan' from the start.
I found it amazing that when Kripke wrote Mom burning on the ceiling he had no idea why..
I'm ok with a 6th season as long as the brothers are the focus of the episodes. And I would like a reappearance of Dad(Jeffrey Dean Morgan), are you listening EK!!!
As always i love your take on things.
bardicvoice: Kripke & Ibardicvoice on February 24th, 2010 04:22 am (UTC)
I would also love to see a return by JDM! If only he'd stop being so busy with movies ... but I want to see him there, too, and getting more and more successful!

Somehow, I'm just convinced we'll be getting the brothers the way we love them best ...

zofia27: Blinkzofia27 on February 24th, 2010 03:28 am (UTC)
A wonderful and thoughtful analysis Professor!

I pretty much agree with everything you've said. I really don't see Jensen and Jared signing on for a 7th season. They've put in their time and will do a great job for the 6th season I'm sure but it's time for them to be set free to pursue other work.

I like you're idea for Kripke's ending and I think you're spot on with that and the fact that he's filmed it twice already. Seems kinda obvious now that you've pointed it out to me! LOL!

Getting back to a more season 1 feel makes sense to me. They were rediscovering themselves as brothers back then and with all that's happened they need to do so again. And what better way for the Winchesters to do that then on a roadtrip, saving people, hunting things. :-)
bardicvoice: Kripke & Ibardicvoice on February 24th, 2010 04:23 am (UTC)
Thank you! We're singing perfect harmony, I think!
metalligirl09metalligirl09 on February 24th, 2010 07:43 pm (UTC)
Hey Mary!

I'm pretty much in agreement with your ideas- I've been thinking for the last season or two that if it did go to six, it would be great for it to become just about the guys again.

Oh- I had to giggle out loud, too, when you mentioned Kripke's final shot for the series. I instantly pictured the trunk scene from the pilot a split second before I read what you had written. Great minds! :-)
(Anonymous) on February 24th, 2010 09:32 pm (UTC)
Mary, I love your synopsis, it's exactly what I've been thinking. Especially the part about the Apocalypse being 'under wraps" and the majority of the planet never finding out about it "hey, did you see the Apocalypse going by?" . Although, after everything that has happened, if a crazy on the street approaches Dean and says "the end of the world is coming", I bet Dean decks him :-)
Super Freak and a Half: Routhfruitynut on February 25th, 2010 05:07 am (UTC)
Love your analysis on episodes and now this! I, like you, enjoy getting involved with the characters and stories, but in the end, as much as we debate and analyze, we're the audience. We're the ones who bought the book to read for our pleasure.

I also don't believe J&J are going to go beyond their contract. This series has really been backbreaking for them and I wouldn't blame them. I just hope they find new and interesting roles in the future, both in films and tv. And if they do get lucky with another tv series, it won't be relocated to Vancouver again. lol Poor Jensen, he keeps getting sent back.

Peace Love and Cheese
Weirder things have happened: grimlucid_babbles on February 25th, 2010 11:25 am (UTC)
That's exactly how I feel. I'm glad that there will be a season 6 to watch (seriously, Supernatural makes the world go round) but it's true that we're all afraid that it might end embarrassingly...having run out of steam and everything.

All the same, will watch Supernatural...just because:)
phantom4jphantom4j on February 26th, 2010 11:21 pm (UTC)
Hi - I just wanted to cheer (somewhat belatedly, I admit) for this most excellent, broad ranging yet detail oriented piece of theorizing. I have been a tad uncomfortable with the possible story line for season 6, but you have reminded me of points that I have (probably because I'm totally ancient) forgotten and you've presented everything in a clearly thought out and very solid manner.

Thank you for writing this! VERY excellent!
Amberamberdreams on March 3rd, 2010 11:53 am (UTC)
As always, a well reasoned, well researched and thoughtful piece! I have a few thoughts on where they could go with season 6 and I am looking forward to seeing what direction they decide to take it. I have loved every season so far for different reasons - I crave a good myth-arc but am very happy to see the boys tussle with a good monster of the week too, and there have been so very few weak episodes, I am hopeful they will be able to maintain the standard for another season at least.
Having an exploration of post traumatic stress coupled perhaps with a quest to find Castiel (a fallen angel who has become their friend and may need rescuing at the end of an apocalyptic season) or to restore Bobby's life to how it should be might be a powerful enough theme to carry a season, and bring off the customary comedic plus angsty mix they do so well.
You only have to dip into the Fan Fic community to see the huge well of ideas that are out there for a future for our boys - and whatever we can imagine, I'm sure these writers can imagine more, bigger, better! I hope so anyway...
doylescordy: Sam and Dean (by spiffydaze)doylescordy on March 8th, 2010 05:14 am (UTC)
As that continues, I could also see them starting to question whether there’s another way to live; whether hunting has to be all there is, or whether it might be possible to have and enjoy the trappings of a normal life while still helping the people no one else could help.

I could see this too. In my opinion, I wouldn't mind them having some sort of home base (possibly even families of their own) while having some sort of semi-normal lives, and still go on the occasional hunt. Or maybe find other ways to help in the hunting world, like maybe set up some sort of organized system that hunters can use as a resource. Afterall, by the end of the apocalyspe, Sam and Dean will probably be some of, if not THE most experienced hunters on earth.

This was an excellent read! :)
labseraphlabseraph on April 2nd, 2010 03:33 am (UTC)
Yes! Yes! Yes! to all you wrote above. I truly adore how well you articulate all our thoughts and dreams of the show and put it up here for all of us to share and squee over.
sothcwedensothcweden on April 12th, 2010 04:40 am (UTC)
I really enjoyed this, and am going to go read your episode reactions. Thanks for making me think about these different story-strands! Friending you to keep up.