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17 September 2007 @ 08:30 pm
Supernatural University: Analysis of a Mid-life Spoiler Junkie [Contains No Spoilers]  

Why do some people crave spoilers, and others hate them? What drives spoiler junkies and spoiler phobes, and where are you on the continuum? Welcome to a very personal psychological case study of spoiler schizophrenia at Supernatural University. Unlike previous University blogs, I’m not analyzing anyone or anything else this time: I’m under my own microscope. You can join me on the couch if you’d like, or just sit back and observe.

 

Spoilers on television reveal information about upcoming episodes. They can be minor – what I would call teasers rather than true spoilers, such as the typical brief run-downs in TV Guide listing the episode title and describing something about the plot, or comments made in interviews by careful actors and writers to attract interest without giving any answers away – or they can truly spoil what would otherwise come as a surprise or even an outright shock to a watcher (“Luke – I am your father!”).

 

Until last year, I never understood the lure of spoilers at all. I would have guessed that spoiler junkies were simply the same people who would open a book to read the end of the story before working their way through the chapters in order, or who thought they knew characters and what should happen to them better than their writers and creators did, or who wanted to be one-up on everyone else walking into a story, or see if they could validate their intelligence and understanding of the show by anticipating correctly where it would go.

 

Since I always colored within the lines when it came to reading stories and watching television, and since I – especially being a bit of a writer myself – appreciate how stories unfold and characters gradually develop through them, jumping to the end never attracted me. I’ve always wanted to live the stories together with their characters, to experience what they know and feel in real time, so that I would share it with them. I don’t want to go into a story knowing in advance what will happen because the characters don’t know, and sharing the discovery with them brings me closer to them. It also means that my emotions are fresh, sometimes even raw, not rehearsed or blunted by the time a climactic moment arrives.

 

Mind you, I’ve never had a problem with judicious teasers. I’ll even confess to looking forward to them, especially to fill in lean times while waiting for new episodes. When you love characters and want desperately to spend time with them, it’s hard to wait until they show up in person, especially when you’re wondering what they’re going to face or how they feel. I’ve always loved well done promos and tried to understand the flashing images I saw in them, and only resented them when they crossed the line from teasing into spoiling. For example, the only Supernatural promo that really bothered me was the one for All Hell Breaks Loose, Part 1. If it had stopped with Dean’s shout and him running forward, I would have been content, but going all the way to showing Dean kneeling, hugging Sam’s dead body, told me more than I wanted to know in advance about exactly how the episode would end.

 

With all that said, I must admit that last season, I crossed the line. I walked in spoiler country. I read episode sides (the scant handful of pages from each script made available to casting agents for actors to use in preparing to audition for guest roles). Unlike many spoiler junkies who obsess on the information in the company of others, I refused to discuss the sides or engage in interminable speculation, worry, and debate on them. I never assumed that I knew more about what would happen than the sides themselves revealed, and I avoided all spoiler discussion forums like the plague, but I read the sides themselves. I wrote my own anticipatory episode rundowns based on them, TV Guide-style, and told the episode names over in my mind like the beads on a rosary, wondering to myself what would happen in them. I’d never done that before for any show, but I simply couldn’t resist doing it for Supernatural.

 

Why?

 

When I dissected my uncharacteristic new spoiler addiction, the first basic reason that emerged for it was simply that I was starving for information. Since the show shoots in Vancouver and is roundly ignored (like the rest of the Hollywood-north-of-the-border shows) by the usual Hollywood publicity machine, we hear vanishingly little from the set. Rare bonanzas happen when fans describe set visits, or when the studio brings specific bloggers or media in for a singular, invitation-only event. Teasers are limited to rare interviews with Kripke, the boys, and some of the writers, typically trickled out days or even weeks after they happen, and to promos for the show, which also tend to be rare given the CW’s general lack of a promotional budget and the network’s concentration on peddling its brand-new, brand-original (i.e., CW, not former WB or UPN) shows. The Supernatural production company itself also has focused almost entirely on crafting the episodes, not on creating ancillary outreach through interactive websites, blogs, or other things, as studios do for some other shows. As a result, we get a lot less information on the production of Supernatural than we hear generally on other shows being shot in Hollywood or aired on networks with deeper pockets.

 

But mere hunger for information wasn’t enough to explain my crossing the spoiler line. I’d never done spoilers before for any show, no matter how hungry I got. I really didn’t want to dilute the emotional punch of stories by knowing events before they happened and anticipating the effects they would have. Even discovering along the way last season – especially with Heart – that knowing the general gist of events didn’t mean knowing how Kripke and Company would actually deliver them didn’t fully offset the damage that spoilers did to in-show revelations for me. And yet, I sought out spoilers for Supernatural. It was like poking a sore tooth or scratching off scabs. I didn’t want to do it, but I couldn’t help myself, even when it hurt.

 

It took me a while to look in the mirror and admit to this, but the primary reason turned out to be simple. What I really want isn’t spoilers; it’s to be a part of the show. And not just any show:  this show, with this cast, this crew, this set of writers. I’ve loved shows before, but this one made me obsessive. My taste for spoilers – and, for that matter, even my decision to blog – was nothing more or less than the expression of my frustrated desire to be something more than just one of millions of anonymous, interchangeable Supernatural fans. I wanted to somehow become a part of the show itself. I wanted to see it happen, to help make it happen, and I wanted to be known as part of it to those who were a part of it already.

 

My spoiler curiosity wasn’t a desire to know in advance what would happen in the overall story, or to see if I could forecast events. Instead, it was just the desire to know what was happening in the writers’ room and on the set now, in real time, as if that knowledge could make me feel more a part of the experience. I found myself sometimes looking at my watch in D.C. and realizing what time it would be in L.A. and Vancouver, and wondering what was happening right then. Were they starting with a very early call, or still finishing off a late one? What story were they shooting? What would that mean for the mood on the set? How were the boys approaching intense scenes? What sort of new characters were being cast, and how would they interact with the boys? What kinds of locations might they be using? What kind of daily schedule were they likely to be running on – would those exterior locations be daytime or nighttime shoots? What would I be seeing, if I were there? What must the discussion in the writers’ room have been like to produce this one? Who came up with that idea, and who added that piece on to it? What ideas were the writers kicking around for unveiling the next piece of the puzzle? How they heck were they going to shoot to get that effect? What kind of a read will that line get?

 

What fun or emotion was I missing, that would never make it into an interview story or onto a gag reel?

 

I’ve concluded that my spoiler fixation fell into the “mid-life crisis” category of wishful thinking experience. The depressing reality is that my chances of actually participating in the production of the show in any way are basically on a par with my chances of winning the lottery without buying a ticket. I mean, really – I’m a career federal civil servant in D.C. with a law degree and almost eighteen years in public service, and with no film or television courses or experience apart from having survived a few on-camera news interviews. All I have to offer are passion, intelligence, and the irresistible urge to write, commodities readily available from professionals in the industry and spread liberally throughout the fandom. Eric Kripke is not going to swoop down, snatch me from the faceless crowd, and offer me a job. And I’m not going to chuck a responsible career in pursuit of a figment of imagination, either. I might, if I’m very, very lucky, get the chance, as other fans have done, to find a location set and even view some filming someday while on a vacation trip to Vancouver, but to wake up in the morning as part of the production, knowing its schedule? Not going to happen.

 

The most I could hope for is that someone from the production might fall over my blog, enjoy it, share it, and possibly remember my online name. Given the plethora of blogs and fansites, however, that’s only marginally more likely than that hypothetically winning lottery ticket. All I am ever likely to be is part of the herd. That’s reality.

 

That’s depressing.

 

Having realized this, however, I think I now have the sack to give up spoilers. Becoming a part of the production, or at least having some of the people whose work I adore – especially including Kripke, Robert Singer, Sera Gamble, Phil Sgriccia, Kim Manners, Jensen Ackles, and Jared Padalecki – know my name, will still be my absolute favorite wish fulfillment daydream, but I’ve decided that acknowledging the fantasy is enough to let me return to spoiler innocence and the joy (and grief) of sharing what the Winchester brothers experience in story-time, rather than in actor-shooting-time.

 

I’m happy that we’ll finally be getting more information about the production process with the publication of the season one and two companion books, and with the creation of the show magazine. That should help tide me over and assuage my data hunger. I’ll hope for more coverage of the show by the Hollywood publicity engine, and perhaps for more internet interactivity on the part of Warner Brothers and the CW. I’ll do my part with letters and posts to encourage that.

 

Mind you, I’ll still sniff out and enjoy every teaser I can find, and I’ll still glory in every discovery of information on the story design and filming process that fleshes out the vicarious adventure of imagining myself there, but I’ll leave the stories alone until I see them complete. Simply because doing it delights me, I will still analyze things to death after they air and speculate in my ignorance about potential futures, and I’ll write episode commentary whether anyone out there reads and comments on it or not. I’ll never broadcast any spoilers that I do accidentally uncover, but I’ll do everything I can to promote the show and express my joy in it. It’s enough for me to have it there to watch. Knowing I’ll be seeing new episodes soon is all the anti-depressant medication I need. And if I get the chance to observe some filming on set, you can bet that I will store up every word, image, and nuance in order to be able to share them with others – after the episode I saw filming actually airs.

 

Oh, by the way – if that winning Supernatural lottery ticket ever should come up with my number, Mr. Kripke, you’ll find me right here, ready and waiting. I’m at your service.

 

Someone else can use the couch now. This personal case study is closed.

 
 
 
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Luminosity: SPN-labratsockkpuppett on September 18th, 2007 06:36 am (UTC)
You don't know me from Adam, but I found this and felt the urge to comment. Supernatural, oddly, is the show that made me *give up* the spoiler habit. When I was up to my ears in Buffy and then Angel, I wanted to know everything, sought it all out, was the spoiler-phile among my friends. Even that was a cyclic thing. I didn't always want to know what Buffy was going to do, and I only wanted to put off my guaranteed heartbreak with Angel. I was partly spoiled for the finale of Angel the Series, and, as powerful as Wes's death was, I felt the dilution of knowing beforehand. Now I am reveling in not knowing a thing about what's going to happen, theorizing and hypothesizing what's going to happen, praying for certain things to happen. It's fun.

I have fantasies of "being discovered" by Kripke or Whedon, too, and I'm in the same boat. I make a living doing a mundane thing, and all of my creative energy is spent in doing "art" for the shows I love. Who knows? Maybe EK or JW have seen my stuff, maybe not. While I'm waiting, I will continue the creative output. :)
bardicvoice: JohnDean Hug by Cakehole_Catbardicvoice on September 18th, 2007 04:12 pm (UTC)
Welcome, sockkpuppett! Glad to meet you!

Funny - I feel as if, with this little session, I'm embarking on the first phase of my 12-step program for recovery from spoiler addiction. I know the temptation will always be there, but I'm holding out for the satisfaction of letting Kripke and Company blindside and sucker-punch me with what happens to the boys in season three, and hopefully more seasons beyond. I'm glad to know that folk like you might be there as support for a recovering spoilerholic ... :)
Laurenblackjedii on September 18th, 2007 10:26 pm (UTC)
*is here from supernatural_tv so ah, hello...*

I love spoilers. Not in the sense that I want to stand on a rooftop and shout them to the world but I'll admit to being one of the people who read the Harry Potter epilogue before the book even came out.
For me, I think it's more of a security thing. I want to know where and in what state the characters are going to end up not as much to spoil the mystery but more so that I know that through all of it, they're going to be okay. Otherwise I'd probably drive myself crazy thinking of how many ways something could go wrong or angsty or evil or what-have-you.

If that made any sense.
bardicvoicebardicvoice on September 18th, 2007 11:26 pm (UTC)
Hello back, blackjedii!

Question for you: if you check out the end of a book and find the characters in grief for another major character who was lost in the course of the book, would you choose not to read the book and thus avoid sharing in the anguish of the loss of the one who died or failed, or would you read the book, clinging to the security of the knowledge of the characters who survive?

I can understad the desire for security, and the hesitation to commit to loving a character only to face losing them, especially since we have no choice in real life but to take our chances with loss. But me, I'll always choose to take the love, no matter what happens after and whether it takes me by surprise or is long in the forecast.

Thanks for coming by and sharing!

Laurenblackjedii on September 19th, 2007 12:00 am (UTC)
That is the kicker, isn't it? Once you commit yourself to a show/book/movie, you're going to have to accept the ending even if it rips your heart out. Knowing can soften the blow though, at least in my experience.

Knowing beforehand (or watching/reading again) definitely changes your perspective. You start to look out for the things that are Important (with a capital 'I') and get why it's going to show up again later.
One of these days I really want to sit down and do a meta on The Benders because in retrospect, that's my favorite episode ever on family dynamics and how the bottom line of the entire show is You Do Not Screw With Me & Mine.
jaylan121 on September 18th, 2007 10:43 pm (UTC)
It's actually funny coz the same reason that got me addicted to SPN spoilers was wanting to get in the mood too, with the boring summer hiatus I felt I was craving for anything Supernatural and my decision to stay spoiler free was burnt to ashes
When I read your beautiful entry I felt parts of me written in front of my eyes and I was glad to find someone like me
Am a writer too but the dream of Kripke discovering me was far beyond my reach due to many geographical barriers, I'm just glad that my stuff is being read by foreign people
Oops, guess I got into the habit of babbling again, hope you forgive me and hope you'd add me as a friend!
bardicvoice: Playful Shove by Cakehole_Catbardicvoice on September 18th, 2007 11:57 pm (UTC)
You're not babbling, jaylan121, and you are most welcome!

I love the appeal that Supernatural has across the globe. It doesn't seem to matter where people live; if they're introduced to the show, it captures them.

I'm going to try to stay spoiler-free from this point on, although I know I may occasionally fall off the wagon again. I just want the new season to begin!
Your eyes are blocking my starlight: Dean - grinaerynvala on September 18th, 2007 10:53 pm (UTC)
Really excellent post. I've gone back and forth about spoilers since I got into fandom. But it's never been something that I've felt very strongly about, until Supernatural. :D Season 1, I didn't seek out spoilers. Season 2, I sought them out with mindless desperation right up until Heart. And then I backed away. I didn't want to know. I remembered how affected I was by going into Devil's Trap entirely unspoiled and didn't want to risk ruining the final episodes of Season 2 by learning too much too soon.

For season three, other than the stuff that wanked around the various journals and comms, I am largely unspoiled. And I plan on staying that way. I'm ready to sit back and be told the story.

But I too harbour that desire to know more, more, more! about the production process. When I got the dvds that's the first thing I did, the commentaries. Because I want to know about the writing and the set creation and the location shots and why they chose this place vs that place and on and on. :D I would kill to get to work as a freaking gopher on the set. Just to be a part of it. To know that I got to help make such an awesome show, even in some small way. heh
bardicvoice: LovePride by Cakehole_Catbardicvoice on September 19th, 2007 12:06 am (UTC)
Greetings, sister would-be gopher! Man, I'd fetch coffee, hold jackets, do bloody anything, just for the satisfaction of sharing the tiniest sense of being part of this show.

And there are thousands like us ... be afraid. Be very afraid!

Thanks for stopping by!
Your eyes are blocking my starlight: Dean - grinaerynvala on September 19th, 2007 12:14 am (UTC)
I'm so glad there are thousands of us though, you know? Because if ever a show has deserved insane devotion it's this one. :)
kavousi on September 18th, 2007 11:38 pm (UTC)
I love spoilers... for me, its not the destination, but the journey of how the writers, directors and actors take you to that destination. Knowing spoilers or not knowing them has never impacted nor negated my enjoyment.

I know how life ends....with death. Its kinda the most basic spoiler we all know... doesnt mean it will spoil the adventure of the journey.

Knowing Sam was going to be killed in S2 meant nothing compared to the emoitonal impact and roller coaster that we were taken on by the actors, etc. And common sense pretty much dictated.. they were not going to perm. kill off one of only two leads on the show! So knowing ahead of time, didnt ruin anything for me.
bardicvoice: Formybrother by Cakehole_Catbardicvoice on September 19th, 2007 12:19 am (UTC)
Hi, kavousi!

I've discovered ... I like surprises. I like emotions that sneak up on me from nowhere and sandbag me without warning. That's where spoilers get in the way for me. But hey - if I had the chance to sit in the writers' room and hear the stories being broken? Or watch them shooting? I wouldn't consider the story spoiled!

Thanks for sharing!
kavousi on September 19th, 2007 12:38 am (UTC)
hello back!

I appreciate the joy of surprise POV... but for me, if I know a key event ahead of time, I can start playing with it in my head and I get more enjoyment out of that. It makes my watch for details more...and go very analytical.

Actually, that might be the core divider/issue. I am very methodical..knowing spoilers is akin to doing blood work on a patient... it gives me a baseline and head's up. For somebody who loves surprises... spoilers are a boner killer.
youronlybelle: kripkeyouronlybelle on September 19th, 2007 12:07 am (UTC)
Hi. I'm coming from supernatural_tv, but I really enjoyed this meta.

I, for one, started reading spoilers back when I was hopelessly addicted to Grey's Anatomy and I needed to know if Meredith and Derek were EVER going to get together. It's not that I wasn't enjoying the immense pain the characters were in, nor was I finding the journey to their inevitable realization of love enjoyable, but I just needed to know that the headache and heartache each episode left me with was worth it. I needed to know that somehow, the journey had a happy destination.

In terms of Supernatural, I believe my spoiler addiction is purely because I enjoy the spoilers now. I am one of those people who reads the ending first, but a sad ending doesn't stop me from reading. Knowing Sammy was going to die in AHBL didn't stop me from sobbing or screaming No! when it did happen. I knew it was going to happen, it only made me more nervous for the episode.

I'm a writer myself and am working on breaking into the TV business and I actually am not bothered at all about the idea of fans one day needing to know what happens on my future show. I think I'd be like Kripke and release spoilers on my own. Spoilers, I think, make people want more. Or at least, that's my running theory.
bardicvoice: FlyDeadGuy by Cakehole_Catbardicvoice on September 19th, 2007 10:50 pm (UTC)
I'll stick with teasers, rather than spoilers, but you can believe I want something!

Thanks for coming by, and very glad you enjoyed the show!
the_other_sandy: Chibi Sam & Dean Brothersthe_other_sandy on September 19th, 2007 12:26 am (UTC)
Another stranger here via supernatural_tv.

I usually avoid spoilers. I've found that if I know anything in advance about an episode, I start building expectations of what I want to see and how I want that episode to go. Then if the episode doesn't fulfill my preconceived expectations, I'm disappointed. Even though it may have been a great episode, I feel let down because it didn't meet my 'goals' for it.

That being said, I did seek out spoilers starting at the beginning of season 2 of Supernatural. I had been reading interviews with Kripke, and the more I heard about a permanent love interest for Dean and the roadhouse and all the other changes Kripke was announcing at the time, the more I worried that the show was about to turn into something I wouldn't enjoy. I started reading the sides to see how the changes were being handled. Once I had reassured myself that, whatever else may be happening, Sam and Dean and their relationship with each other hadn't changed, I stopped reading the sides and started avoiding spoilers again. That was my one and only deliberate foray into spoiler territory. I'm trying to stay spoiler free for season 3.
bardicvoice: GoingtoFall by Cakehole_Catbardicvoice on September 19th, 2007 11:02 pm (UTC)
There are no strangers in fandom!

Your "building expectations" concept rings true for me. I think there's a part of that in me as well. Unless and until I get to join the writers' room, I don't want to think in advance about how a story will shape up, because I might prejudice myself against appreciating the different way that the writers actually take it. Good point. Thanks!
[fʏʃ]: SN - Sam - bitchfacefueschgast on September 19th, 2007 12:50 am (UTC)
For me there are two kinds of spoilers. Preseason spoilers which are good because a) OMG, finally some news! And b) it's not that much information anyway. And then there are the later spoilers that just tell too much. I try to stay away from those, but as they are evil there's not much you can do - sometimes they just find you!
bardicvoice: NotJustPorn by Cakehole_Catbardicvoice on September 19th, 2007 11:04 pm (UTC)
Tee-hee - tease, yes; spoil, no. How do you spread salt to keep demons from your web surfboard? *grin*
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bardicvoicebardicvoice on September 19th, 2007 11:08 pm (UTC)
Thanks for coming by! I think the_other_sandy nailed another piece of it for me; the concern that, knowing in advance something of what would happen, I might build expectations that would make me disappointed if it went in a different direction.

Even when I was being spoiled last season, I was always eager for and delighted by the show, so the experience wasn't spoiled even though I was.
kajmerekajmere on September 19th, 2007 02:26 am (UTC)
I came across your cross post to supernatural_tv and had to come read this.
First off I just want to say, you did an amazing job!
I think deep down we all feel this way, if we openly admit it or not.
Prior to this coming season I wasn't a Spoiler junkie myself. But from the end of Season 2 to the present date I find myself on the hunt for the newest info on our show. Mind you I never spoil myself completly, I don't read full episode sides, just enough to get me by.
I guess it makes me feel close to the Winchesters, when they're not around.
I recently watched the commentary episode provided for "What Is and What Should Never Be" by Mr.Kripke (season 2 DVD)
and listening to his first hand accounts of everything that took place during the production honestly makes me appreciate just how much time and effort Kripke & Co. puts in to this amazing series.

Again, fantastic job putting into words what goes though most of our minds!
bardicvoicebardicvoice on September 19th, 2007 11:11 pm (UTC)
Thanks, and I'm glad you enjoyed it!

I am SO looking forward to every snippet of (non-spoiling) information available from everywhere. The season companion books have me salivating ...
Diagonally Parked in a Parallel Universeriverbella on September 19th, 2007 02:36 am (UTC)
When it comes to Supernatural and spoilers, I am all over the place. Sometimes I can't resist spoilers. Other times, I prefer to be surprised. I am probably most likely to seek out spoilers after the episode teasers have begun to air. I always watch the "Director's Cuts" on the CW web site, for example. If something in them makes me fretful about what is going to happen, I might look for spoilers so I can be prepared.

So far this pre-season, I am finding that I do not want to be spoiled (teased, yes, spoiled, no). I have seen some promo pics, but I am totally avoiding sides. At this point, I feel like I just want to go along for the ride. But that could change. My reactions to this show, way above and beyond any other, are intensely visceral. It depends on what sort of head space I am in at the time whether or not I want to risk it, if that makes any sense.

Anyway, as usual, much food for thought and personal reflection. I appreciate your openness about your own feelings and experiences.

(Ah, daydreams. Near the end of last season, when renewal was up in the air, I invented some amazing new technology and got filthy rich and committed enough of my new wealth to the CW in the form of advertising revenue to keep Supernatural on the air indefinitely. Much love and appreciation from Kripke & Co. ensued!!! :D)
bardicvoice: Playful Shove by Cakehole_Catbardicvoice on September 19th, 2007 11:14 pm (UTC)
As you can tell, I've been pretty conflicted about spoilers myself! We'll see how my 12-step recovery program goes as the season progresses, and whether or not I fall off the wagon.

Maybe I should open a book on it and take bets? *grin*

Thanks for saying hey!
astri13astri13 on September 19th, 2007 11:24 am (UTC)
Hi, followed the link over from the comm and I don`t know if I can offer some explanation for the spoiler-whores out there since I can only speak for my preferences but here goes. :)

Simple fact for me, I don`t like surprises. Never have. I`ve always prefered to receive something I know I`d want to a surprise gift. Maybe I`m an oddball but it`s the same with spoilers.

I found that reading sides really helps me - epsecially right now because all the official interviews and promo materials for Season 3 do not make me happy as they are covering a lot of stuff I don`t care about in general or have not liked in Season 2.
The actual spoilers so far are what makes me look forward to things.

Also knowing what`s gonna happen still doesn`t detract from my enjoyment in watching it. If the spoiler makes me squee, it`s most likely the episodes makes me squee tenfold, if I don`t like it, I can work through my anger and be more neutral when the ep airs.
Case in point, "All Hell... Part 2" where they kept it under wraps and I could entertain a tiny sliver of hope Dean wouldn`t make a damn deal. If I had known beforehand, I might have been able to take it better. As it was the watching experience was horrible. I hated that development and since my hopes were crushed on the spot, I spluttered in anger all through the rest of the ep. Right after I was about ready to ditch the show. :/

And a third part is the fact that hardly I AM surprised by TV anymore, even if I don`t read spoilers. Thanks to watching more TV/movies than is probably good for me I started to recognize certain patterns. For example for "Roadkill" the sides only showed the Teaser. Yet in watching the Director`s Cut I was like "ah, she is a ghost then" and in watching the ep my assumptions were confirmed as soon as the teaser was over. I simply have seen certain tricks/anvils/muscial cues/camera angles too many times to not have a good idea where this is going.

So this is probably different for everybody but it`s certainly the reason why I`d never give up reading spoilers on shows I truly care about.
bardicvoicebardicvoice on September 19th, 2007 11:31 pm (UTC)
Thanks for sharing!

I tend to avoid a lot of fan forums because I simply can't abide the hysteria that often abounds about rumors of impending doom based on runaway interpretations of spoilers, photos, or interview write-ups and comments. I don't want to prejudge what I haven't seen. I guess I'm more willing to trust this team of writers, especially as they've demonstrated to my satisfaction that they love the brothers and that when one strays a bit off the reservation, the others are likely to pull the erring one back.

And I wasn't angry about Dean making the deal. Grieved and weeping, but not angry. Then again, I think I saw it coming, based on the shape of the season up until that point. What with John's deal and Dean's reaction to it, I could taste the brutal irony of Dean being faced with the same choice and making the same decision despite being ashamed of it and guilty for it, knowing from his own experience what realizing the truth would mean to Sam. It had the taste of inevitability, of fate not unavoidable, but chosen from despair.

Isn't it October yet? We can all agree on that plaintive cry, even if we differ in many of our other tastes and reactions!
astri13astri13 on September 19th, 2007 11:47 pm (UTC)
I don't want to prejudge what I haven't seen.

I can still change my mind on something I`ve disliked in the sides so I`m not totally set on it but in general the sides mostly give a good read on where things are going and I know certain scenes/plot elements I just won`t like because I never do. It`s a bit like food. If you don`t like tuna, it doesn`t matter how someone offers it to you, you most probably won`t like the finished product.

But thankfully with the show the good has so far outweighed the bad pretty heavily. Well, the deal was a heavy hit to me but I`ve at least learned to accept it and unless they plan on hitting the afterwards-sympathy-button with it, I don`t see a reason to not give them a fresh slate for Season 3.
♥ TV is my boyfriendtv_hooked_me on September 19th, 2007 04:51 pm (UTC)
I would have guessed that spoiler junkies were simply the same people who would open a book to read the end of the story before working their way through the chapters in order

It's amusing you picked that example, it made me think about my spoilerphobe-ish habits. So, I am an hardcore spoilerphobe without question. Even the icons which came up within the last days in several communities showing just like 1 pixel of the spoilery S3 pictures bothered me. I'm invariably skipping every article that might contain the slightest spoilers. But, and that is the funny thing and my actual point - I do read the last sentence of books first. Ever.

Unfortunately I only read the first four paragraphes of your analysis yet for a lack of freetime but I'll continue reading later on and surely comment again ;)
bardicvoice: FlyDeadGuy by Cakehole_Catbardicvoice on September 19th, 2007 11:32 pm (UTC)
That's hilarious! Just goes to show that no assumption is ever safe ... Thanks for a wonderful laugh!